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OnlineHost    You are now in room "Fat Chat Room."
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CSS Miz    Howdy, Tony :)
CSS Tony    Hiya MIZ!!!
CSS Miz    How ya doing?? :)
CSS Tony    Take pity on me I'm sick.  :( Cough
CSS Tony    Hehehe
CSS Miz    Awwww, sorry to hear that. Poor baby! :D
CSS Tony    Now that's more like it!
CSS Tony    :))))
CSS Tony    So what are you up to tonite?
CSS Tony    Have i seen you online before CSS?
CSS Miz    Waiting for a meeting we're supposed to have tonight.
CSS Miz    (Sorry, was just checking a file.)
CSS Miz    I'm generally online under my hosting name, MizChiff 2 :)
CSS Tony    I thought so!!!
CSS Miz    Yup :)
CSS Tony    Got a GIF?
CSS Miz    Nope :)
CSS Tony    Darn, want mine?
CSS Miz    Sure :)
CSS Tony    Okay let me mail it to you hold on
CSS Miz    Okay! :D
CSS Miz    Hiya, Dennis :)
CSS Dennis    hi!!
CSS Miz    Got it, Tony! Thanks :)
CSS Tony    Hiya Dennis
CSS Tony    hey I saw someone using these commands //
CSS Dennis    I see ya Tony, no matter how hard you try to hide behind that flower  :)
CSS Tony    like//roll
OnlineHost    CSS Dennis rolled 2 6-sided dice:   6  4
CSS Dennis    like that?
CSS Miz    LOL, Dennis ;)
CSS Tony    yah cept they were asking questions
CSS Miz    Tony, we've been having a lot of problems with that --
CSS Tony    like // new
CSS Miz    they just removed the Trivia Tools this week.
CSS Miz    Someone was using it to find out people's passwords. :(
CSS Tony    Someone was getting really nasty
CSS Miz    Yeah, that too :(
CSS Miz    Dennis, I was beginning to think everyone had forgotten about the meeting.
CSS Tony    Rain rain go away?
CSS Dennis    :)  It's not 6pm yet  ;)
CSS Dennis    LOL!
CSS Miz    Can't be far off, my clock says 6:01 pm :)
CSS Tony    how bout 9 AM like my last meeting?
CSS Dennis    The more I thought about it, the more I think we'll probably end up expanding into
CSS Miz    Ugh, Tony! Not if I don't have too!
CSS Dennis    other areas.  Sort of a catch-all for questions.  Rainman first, then the other goodies. ;)
CSS Tony    How does Rainman work?
CSS Tony    Wasn't that a movie?
CSS Miz    Yep, sure was. A good movie, too. :)
CSS Dennis    <-- buys his underwear at K-Mart  ;)
CSS Tony    oh and evryone in the OH was wondering why we have to be at the kitchen table
CSS Miz    To practice our manners?
CSS Dennis    Ah, to heck with it, let's get started.
CSS Miz    Dennis, does that fall under "catch-all" or "other goodies"? ;>
CSS Miz    What?? With only 2 of us here??
CSS Dennis    Sure Miz  :)
CSS Tony    Gary too
CSS Dennis    three
CSS Miz    Oh, make that 3 (other than you)
CSS Miz    Hiya, Gary :)
CSS Dennis    Let's do it.  To answer Tony's question first - how does Rainman work.
CSS Dennis    To figure that one out, we need to tear apart the header stuff in a Rainman report.
CSS Tony    Log on!!!!
CSS Dennis    (thanks Tony_
CSS Gary    <--- Is here now! :)
CSS Dennis    The first line in any report is the \group
CSS Dennis       This alerts the system as to what area online the changes will be to.  Our current - and
CSS Gary    Hmmm... *sloooow* node here :(
CSS Tony    \group, is that a command?
CSS Dennis    only group is Bobaloo.  So, the "\group Bobaloo", tells the stratus that all changes followi
CSS Dennis    oops, following will occur in the area set aside as Bobaloo.
CSS Dennis    (yes, \group is a command but needs a parameter, i.e.; Bobaloo)
CSS Tony    Is that the default that we will be using?
CSS Dennis    Hmmm, I guess I should have mentioned that ALL rainman commands are preceded
CSS Dennis    by a '\' backslash.
CSS Dennis    For now, yes Tony.  Later, when the other areas and forums go to full rainman, there
CSS Dennis    will probably be alot more groups to work with.  As for default - nope, you can NEVER
CSS Dennis    leave this command line with just a "\group".  The report could really hose up another area
CSS Dennis    online.
CSS Dennis    Hokay, we woke up the Stratus, told it where we're going to be working - its now time
CSS Dennis    to tell the expensive paperweight what we're going to do.
CSS Dennis    "\id xxxx" tells the stratus EXACTLY what we're changing.  In every group, there are a
CSS Dennis    whole bunch of items and each item is identified by a number.  The 'xxxx' in this case is
CSS Gary    Bak!
CSS Dennis    where you would put the item id#.  If the item is brand new, then you would put 'auto'
CSS Miz    WB!
CSS Dennis    so that the stratus will assign an id# to your new item.
CSS Dennis    Did I confuse anyone??
CSS Tony    :: Is Lost::
CSS Miz    Not yet :)
CSS Dennis    Where at Tony.
CSS Gary    I'll catch up in time :)
CSS Dennis    Just on the second line of the header stuff Gary - \id xxxx
CSS Tony    Doe sthe number equal our area?
CSS Tony    like ie JPEGView
CSS Tony    is one area?
CSS Gary    ok :)
CSS Dennis    No, the id# is for an INDIVIDUAL item within an area.  In the case of the CSS rainman
CSS Dennis    reports, we are talking about one singular report, within the group bobaloo.
CSS Dennis    If, and I say big if, we do have groups associated with each company then we would have
CSS Tony    Ahh gotcha!
CSS Dennis    something like this:  \group jpegview, then an \id jpg1111, 2222, 3333 etc.  Depending on
CSS Dennis    the number of items within the group.
CSS Gary    ::: opening up container of Chinese food that was just delivered and dishing out :::
CSS Gary    Anyone care for some?
CSS Tony    So I take it we must note down in our own database what our log number is?
CSS Dennis    Very important!!:  If you use the \id auto, you are ADDING a NEW item to the group
CSS Dennis    and this can sink you.  Especially when all you originally wanted to do was to change an
CSS Dennis    existing item.  I stress the id#'s because, you can end up with a bunch of duplicate entries
CSS Dennis    if you are not careful.  You can also, if you use the wrong id#, replace the wrong text
CSS Dennis    and if you are really off base, that text could be in a completely different area!!.
CSS Dennis    So, the key points to remember are to (1) double check the area, make sure its the right one
CSS Dennis    (2) double check the ID#, make sure you are changing the one you want to change - or adding
CSS Dennis    something totally new to the area.
CSS Dennis    Questions?
CSS Tony    So let me get this straight
CSS Tony    ! make sure it's Bobaloo?
CSS Tony    2 make sure i have the right number?
CSS Miz    When are we going to be using this? To do what?
CSS Dennis    You got it Tony!! Miz, you should begin using them now in making up your reports on the
CSS Dennis    companies you have been assigned.  Have you all checked out the Reference Guide here in
CSS Dennis    fatdome??  The reports that are in there were ALL generated by using Rainman.  Right now,
CSS Miz    That's what I thought. But you mentioned changing text?
CSS Dennis    you still have to submit through your Tier 1 however that will change when we go to full
CSS Dennis    rainman implementation.
CSS Dennis    Yes, when you submit a company report, if it already exists, you'll be changing the old
CSS Dennis    report for a new one.
CSS Miz    Ah, I gothca! :D
CSS Tony    Is that what we want to do?
CSS Tony    change the old for a new one?
CSS Miz    We'll be updating it, right?
CSS Dennis    Yes, in part.  Currently, Big Bob wants us to paste in the text of the older report to the
CSS Dennis    bottom of the latest so that we have two months of reports in one company text item.
CSS Dennis    hmmm, that didn't make sense.  :)  We go into the Reference Guide, copy out last month's
CSS Dennis    report, paste it into the new report (at the bottom) then send in the whole thing.
CSS Tony    So we only need two months worth of reports?
CSS Dennis    per company - yes.
CSS Tony    and it will be a continual update of the same id number right?
CSS Dennis    This way Bob can quickly see if there has been an improvement.
CSS Dennis    You got it!!
CSS Dennis    Now, here's what I call the neutral command line - the one that won't do any damage at all,
CSS Dennis    so long as the format is correct.  "\comment"  allows you to put a line of text, saying
CSS Dennis    anything you want.  This command line is totally optional - you don't have to have it in a
CSS Dennis    report at all.  (Its neat if you want to say something like "\comment Pam uses clairol" or
CSS Dennis    "\comment Mike sucks raw eggs"  :)
CSS Miz    Heh! ::: making note to send log to Pam & Mike ::: ;>
CSS Tony    so ya think Bob'll like that?
CSS Dennis    :)  That's the kicker - only the person submitting the Rainman report sees the comment!  You
CSS Dennis    can put anything in there. ;)
CSS Gary    \comment  <--- munching on his egg roll
CSS Dennis    Just remember, it can be only one line.
CSS Dennis    and it must follow immediately after the \comment
CSS Dennis    Okay, now we get into the trenches....
CSS Dennis    "\map bobaloo" tells the stratus, what sub-area to map the id# specified or assigned to.
CSS Dennis    Think of the who thing as something like this...
CSS Dennis    \GROUP BOBALOO - big directory
CSS Dennis       \ID xxxx - pointer and name of the item
CSS Dennis          \MAP BOBALOO - put the id# into this map so that we can find it later.
CSS Tony    Give us an example
CSS Dennis    Map is used in case you have sub groups.  A good example is say - we have a big Group called
CSS Dennis    Games, within that, we have a sub-group called Arcade.  You have some text you need updated
CSS Dennis    about a pinball game so you tell the stratus to ...
CSS Dennis    Move to the group Games with the \group Games
CSS Dennis    Change this text with the \id xxxx
CSS Dennis    Put this changed text in the appropriate area within the Arcade section with \map Arcade
CSS Dennis    In the case of our CSS reports, the group and the sub-group are called the same thing:
CSS Dennis    Bobaloo
CSS Dennis    What will probably occur with us will be the Group being the primary area, the the Map
CSS Dennis    actually mapping to the company name.
CSS Dennis    Now how much have I confused you??
CSS Tony    A LOT!
CSS Tony    So give us a demo of the commands as they would appear
CSS Dennis    \group bobaloo
CSS Dennis    \id csabfl5x
CSS Dennis    \comment Bob is ugly
CSS Dennis    \map bobaloo
CSS Dennis    Note:  id#'s are 8 characters long - all the time.
CSS Dennis    AND they usually don't make a lot of sense ;)
CSS Dennis    why you ask?? :)
CSS Tony    LOL
CSS Tony    So in our own DB we should note the ID's?
CSS Dennis    cause we all normally will get the first id# from when we submit the first report with a
CSS Dennis    \id auto - the stratus assigns the number and its notorious for generating random stuff. :)
CSS Tony    ?
CSS Dennis    Yes, you should track the companies you are responsible for.
CSS Tony    Does each of our personal CS areas have its own ID numbers?
CSS Dennis    Jump in anytime.  There ain't enough of us to stand to protocol :)
CSS Dennis    Each company report will have its own id#.
CSS Dennis    I don't want to get into the future too much but eventually, EVERY item within the company
CSS Dennis    area, actually anywhere online, will have its own id#.
CSS Tony    So for now there will be only ! id per CSS or per area?
CSS Miz    From what I understand, any company that has a report in Bob's Reference Area will have the ID# on it.
CSS Tony    IE I have 12 companies
CSS Dennis    Miz, you got it.  Tony, if you have 12 companies and 12 reports, you'll have 12 id#'s.
CSS Miz    Yep, one for each company. :)
CSS Gary    How do you find the IDs if you don't know them?
CSS Tony    Yeah?
CSS Dennis    Hah!!!  Very good question Gary!!  Just for asking that, you get a free hour of online time
CSS Dennis    :)
CSS Gary    Ok... I'll give you another account to credit it to ;)
CSS Dennis    oh oh  ;)
CSS Dennis    Okay, if you don't mind, I would like to put that question on the back burner for a moment
CSS Gary    <--- finished his egg foo young and ready for action ;)
CSS Dennis    while we finish out the header on the company repors.
CSS Dennis    oops, reports.
CSS Miz    ::: shoving "ID question" onto back burner :::
CSS Dennis    The next command we send to the stratus is for it to date stamp our reports.  To do this we
CSS Dennis    simply put in the command "\dateline date".  This appends the date to the title of our
CSS Dennis    report automatically.
CSS Dennis    We could go into the real fancy stuff like time stamping and date/time stamping but for the
CSS Dennis    purposes of our CSS reports, all we need is a date stamp.  - TEST question:
CSS Dennis    If \dateline date does a date stamp, what would do a time stamp?   What would do a date &
CSS Dennis    time stamp?
CSS Dennis    Miz??
CSS Miz    /time]
CSS Miz    ?
CSS Miz    oops... \timeline
CSS Dennis    close but not quite right  :)
CSS Tony    \timeline time?
CSS Miz    \timeline time
CSS Dennis    Remember, \dateline date puts the date on the line.
CSS Miz    \dateline time
CSS Dennis    So... \dateline time would put the time on the line.  ;) BINGO!
CSS Dennis    How bout the second half of that question??  Gary??
CSS Miz    Given enough clues, will finally figure it out. :)
CSS Gary    second half?
CSS Miz    \dateline date time?
CSS Miz    Will that work?
CSS Gary    \datetimeline date time
CSS Dennis    Miz got it but put a space in there.  The correct syntax is: \dateline datetime
CSS Miz    Hokay. Makes sense. :)
CSS Dennis    Remember, for the purposes of our CSS reports,we use only \dateline date
CSS Gary    <--- if he had a \dateline he'd be out on the town tonite instead of here ;)
CSS Dennis    LOL!!
CSS Miz    Hmmm... I'll bet that's how the Stratus is set up when it sends out email :)
CSS Dennis    Now comes the meat of the report.  Our headline and the actual text of the report.
CSS Miz    Gary, you're preaching to the choir. :)
CSS Dennis    (yep Miz!)
CSS Miz    So, what was that? The soup course? ;>
CSS Dennis    There are two ways to go about this.  Personally, I don't like to type so I use the
CSS Dennis    optimized method.  I'll show you the long way first.
CSS Dennis    To put a headline on your report (it will appear as the first line of your report and also
CSS Dennis    at the window title) you use the command: \headline ???? where the ???? is one line of text
CSS Dennis    that is the actual headline you want displayed.
CSS Dennis    So for a report on JPegView we would have: \headline JPEGView
CSS Dennis    If no questions, I'll move on.
CSS Tony    ga
CSS Dennis    Now, we tell the stratus that all the text following is to be taken as only text,
CSS Dennis    and for it not to touch it unless it sees another '\' (backslash)
CSS Dennis    To do that we use, on a line by itself the command: \text
CSS Tony    almost reembles a vi editor
CSS Dennis    yep, very close Tony
CSS Dennis    The text of your report would start on the next line below this command.
CSS Dennis    Now, for the shortcut  ;)
CSS Dennis    You can combine the commands \headline and \text into one command to cover both
CSS Dennis    actions you want the stratus to do.  The command to do that is: \htext ???? where ???? is
CSS Dennis    the headline you want displayed.  Then, on the next line, you just start the text of your
CSS Dennis    report.  You save 10 key strokes!!  :)
CSS Dennis    In summary, your CSS company reports should have a header like this:
CSS Dennis    \group bobaloo
CSS Dennis    \id xxxx (either auto or the actual id #)
CSS Dennis    \map bobaloo
CSS Dennis    \dateline date
CSS Dennis    \htext ???? (the company name)
CSS Dennis    or substitute the \htext with:
CSS Dennis    \headline ???? (the company name)
CSS Dennis    \text
CSS Dennis    got it??
CSS Miz    Yup :)
CSS Dennis    Okay, the final command for the report:  \end
CSS Dennis    I don't think that one needs to be explained  :)
CSS Dennis    Okay, let's get to Gary's question "How do we find out the ID#'s??"
CSS Tony    Whew what a keyboard full!!!!
CSS Dennis    Rainman has several other commands as outlined in the Rainman documents
CSS Dennis    available in the Online Staff Center.  They can get confusing at first but then
CSS Dennis    I'm sure you'll see the logic behind them.  The best example is the \get command.
CSS Dennis    By using a "\get bobaloo", you can get all the id#'s associated with the group Bobaloo.
CSS Dennis    As in all rainman reports, this simple one liner is in a file and sent as an attachment to
CSS Gary    ::: pushing my question back to the front burner :::
CSS Dennis    the Rainman address.  When you submit your reports to your Tier 1's, they are attachments
CSS Dennis    to your e-mail.  This little \get command is the same way.
CSS Dennis    Your Tier 1 then takes the attachment, checks for the format and just sends on to our Rainma
CSS Dennis    oops, Rainman address.  Not much to it, provided the format is all correct.
CSS Tony    So we do all this formatted in a document sent to our tier one
CSS Tony    and the tier one submits it for us?
CSS Dennis    Yep, that's the procedure for now.
CSS Miz    Is there any reason why all the ID #s aren't in a file in the library?
CSS Dennis    Yes Miz - I haven't done it yet.  :)
CSS Miz    Heh. :)  Okay.
CSS Dennis    I will be doing that tomarrow though.
CSS Dennis    and, that leads us to another question - What's the easiest way to make up a Rainman
CSS Dennis    report?? (trick question)
CSS Tony    Cut and paste it
CSS Tony    Pam Sent us one?
CSS Dennis    okay, I'll give you 1/2 credit  ;)  The entire report is in template form available for
CSS Dennis    downloading in our software library.
CSS Miz    Oh shucks, that's no trick question. :)
CSS Tony    Like the template Pam sent us?
CSS Dennis    {{ Jo }}
CSS Gary    {{ Jo!!! }}}
CSS Miz    Hiya, Jo :)
CSS Jo    {{Dennis}}}  :::snif:::
CSS Dennis    Now that you all have the singular rainman report down pat, how would you go about
CSS Jo    {{{Everyone}}}
CSS Dennis    submitting multiple reports??  Hint:  \end only appears at the very end of the rainman
CSS Tony    Hey Jo whatcha know?
CSS Dennis    submittal.
CSS Tony    cut and past a lot in succession?
CSS Gary    Just run them in a file one after the other?
CSS Jo    I know I have the flu, and it's miserable!
CSS Dennis    yes, and??
CSS Gary    Putting the /end at the end of them all
CSS Dennis    and?
CSS Dennis    :)  I knew I could catch you guys if I tried hard enough ; )
CSS Dennis    To do multiple reports, i.e.; more than one rainman submission in an attached file, here's
CSS Dennis    what you do:  The very FIRST line is the \group bobaloo command.
CSS Dennis    then, the header is the same for EACH company except you DO NOT put \group bobaloo in it.
CSS Dennis    here's an example:
CSS Dennis    \group bobaloo
CSS Dennis    \id auto
CSS Dennis    \map bobaloo
CSS Dennis    \dateline date
CSS Dennis    \htext JPEGView
CSS Dennis    this is the report on JPEGView
CSS Dennis    this is the end of the report
CSS Dennis    \id cfasgh0q
CSS Dennis    \dateline date
CSS Dennis    oops!!! scratch that last line and insert:
CSS Dennis    \map bobaloo
CSS Dennis    \dateline date
CSS Dennis    \htext Gronk Software
CSS Dennis    this is the report of Gronk Software
CSS Dennis    this is the end of the report and the end of my submission today
CSS Dennis    \end
CSS Dennis    sorry bout that one line, I got ahead of myself. :)
CSS Jo    Please 'splain: Grop bobaloo tells the computer it's going to be a group rainman?  And then each
CSS Dennis    Here's the kicker - you can submit AS MANY reports as you want in the stringing format.
CSS Jo    consecute bobaloo is the independent divider?
CSS Dennis    No Jo, the first group bobaloo tells the computer that all the below stuff will be in
CSS Dennis    the group bobaloo.  The the suceeding map bobaloo tells the computer that the id#'s will
CSS Dennis    should all be contained within the sub-group (map) bobaloo.
CSS Dennis    You use the \group only once per submission because you only have to switch the
CSS Donald    Hi. :)
CSS Dennis    computer's pointers to that major group once.  Any more than that and its just a waste of
CSS Dennis    typing.
CSS Dennis    Rainman will accept the \group bobaloo in the header of all reports, even those strung
CSS Jo    Hi Donald, OK, Dennis, I think I got that.:)
CSS Dennis    together but there's no reason for it once it has been switched once.
CSS Dennis    Hya Donald!
CSS Donald    Hi Dennis....Is someone logging tonite?  Will it be posted?
CSS Miz    <-- is logging
CSS Dennis    That's Rainman guys. If you want, you can send me test ones and I'll be more than happy to
CSS Dennis    check them out and give you a critique.
CSS Jo    brb
CSS Miz    Critique? Geez, how about just a little help. :)
CSS Dennis    that too!  :)
CSS Tony    Cool
CSS Tony    So does that conclude training?
CSS Miz    ::: cringing at the word "critique" ::::
CSS Dennis    Of course, you can snag me anytime I'm online for help.  That's what I'm here for.
CSS Dennis    Now - the official rainman training is over unless you have questions.  Also, questions abou
CSS Dennis    oops about anything else in our CSS world can begin  :)
CSS Dennis    (Miz, send me the log too please??)
CSS Miz    Dennis, I'll send it to you and you can post it. :)
CSS Gary    Dennis, just one more question...
CSS Dennis    thanks!
CSS Dennis    Shoot Gary.
CSS Miz    :: aiming at Gary & pulling the trigger :::::
CSS Gary    Now that we've seen the online version, do you recommend that we see the movie Rainman...
CSS Gary    or read the novel?
CSS Tony    It rolls down stairs alone and in pairs
CSS Tony    rolls over the neighbors dog
CSS Dennis    LOL!!!  read the novel - its a good reference.  Then see the movie - the popcorn is usually
CSS Dennis    good.
CSS Gary    Not the dog!!
CSS Gary    Ahhh, ok.  thanks :D
CSS Tony    a thing a thing a marvelous thing everyone wants a log!
CSS Dennis    Any other CSS questions??
CSS Miz    Can't think of anything, thanks Dennis :)
CSS Dennis    So, you're all experts and ready to hit it big time??  :)
CSS Tony    LOL yah right!
CSS Miz    No, we're all still to inexperienced to know what to ask. :)
CSS Gary    Dennis, I think you did such a great job we're spechless... thanks :)
CSS Dennis    Miz, you've submitted a report or two already haven't you??
CSS Miz    Nope, not yet.
CSS Dennis    yea, sure Gary  :)
CSS Dennis    Look guys, I'm just like you.  Just a tad more experience is all the difference.
CSS Dennis    You'll all have this stuff down pat in no time.  You should have seen the screw-ups I did!!
CSS Jo    What rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs, rolls over you neighbors dog...
CSS Gary    Dennis, did you end up changing files in Japan via the Internet by mistake?
CSS Miz    We probably couldn't mess it up so badly that it couldn't be fixed. Isn't that what Tier I's are for?
CSS Miz    ;>
CSS Dennis    Very close Gary!  I inadvertantly removed ALL my text items in my old forum once.
CSS Dennis    LOL Miz!!
CSS Gary    Opps!
CSS Tony    Log Log!!!
CSS Miz    But that's why you guys get the big bucks, right? ;>
CSS Dennis    Sure do, about 10 times what you all get  :)
CSS Miz    See, I knew you were overpaid!
CSS Miz    :D
CSS Dennis    of course 10 X 0 still equals 0
CSS Donald    Everyone loves Log!!!
CSS Jo    Question for all...has anyone else had a lot of trouble getting online lately?
CSS Gary    Dennis, 10 OH accounts???
CSS Gary    Jo, I had some problems getting here earlier.
CSS Miz    Gads, how could you keep track of all your identies???
CSS Jo    {{{Donald}}} {{{Tony}}} you get the gold stars tonight!
CSS Dennis    Gary, I only have one.  :(  I lost my original account that was overheaded. Lost it just
CSS Gary    Has anyone else had any problems posting using TEXT?
CSS Dennis    this week.
CSS Dennis    I was AFA Dennis way way back when.  ;)
CSS Jo    For some reason it takes three or four tries to log on?  Any ideas why?
CSS Dennis    oh my gosh, that was in 89!!  oy!
CSS Donald    :)  Don't forget Log for Girls!
CSS Gary    Awwww, Dennis... I have a second account but usually don't get to use up my monthly minimum.
CSS Tony    That looked like me last week right Dennis?
CSS Dennis    overloaded telenet or tymnet node Jo.
CSS Dennis    :)  Yea Tony.  That was a fun one. :)
CSS Dennis    Looked like me today whilst I was trying to update a bunch of text items.
CSS Jo    ALso, in New Hampshire they offer phone numbers that are local on another net that my system doesn't
CSS Jo    opt for?  ANy reason why?
CSS Dennis    That's why we are pushing for Rainman guys.  We don't get that "Text Update Failed" message
CSS Dennis    and you Mac users will be able to do Flashmail on the Rainman stuff.  Eventually.
CSS Dennis    what other net?
CSS Donald    Meaning: Send later before logging off?
CSS Miz    This will replace the Keyword: Text tool?
CSS Jo    I think it's tymnet
CSS Dennis    Or unattended mode Donald.
CSS Dennis    Yep Miz.
CSS Donald    Nice. :)
CSS Dennis    Tymnet should be an option in MacAOL Jo.
CSS Tony    What's the difs?
CSS Jo    It's not on mine?!
CSS Dennis    between what Tony??
CSS Dennis    No where in the setup Jo??  It used to be.
CSS Tony    Tymnet
CSS Tony    and Sprint Net
CSS Jo    I have three options.  SPrintnet, Telenet and one other.
CSS Dennis    Oh!!  Telenet is owned by SprintNet - mostly optical between major hubs and alot more
CSS Donald    Sprintnet, Tymnet and Dennisnet.
CSS Dennis    effective node switching.  Tymnet is a bit behind the tech curve.  Their switches
CSS Dennis    are few and far between.
CSS Tony    I dinna have access to tlelnet
CSS Jo    No, silly - Bobnet!  };)
CSS Dennis    No questions on Text, LIbrary or message board tools??  I"m amazed!
CSS Donald    I use Bobnet on some of my lenses for shooting. ;)
CSS Tony    is that the same telelnet as in Interent telenet?
CSS Jo    I missed it but if you would go over it...}:)\
CSS Miz    They will eventually be replaced by Rainman, right?
CSS Dennis    Yep Tony.  Same numbers and everything.  Of course Internet usually uses sub-nets,
CSS Jo    (just kidding, I'll read the notes from MIz!)
CSS Dennis    of Telenet for their addresses.
CSS Miz    Jo, you didn't miss it -- we didn't talk about them. :)
CSS Tony    Now the internet we have access to is the same as the one I use on a UNIX?
CSS Tony    at work?
CSS Donald    I think there is only one Internet...
CSS Dennis    May be tony, depends on your network.  I'm on the DDN at work and that is a whole
CSS Dennis    different ball game.
CSS Dennis    If your addresses begin with a 3110, then chances are, you are on the same net.
CSS Tony    I can't remember my address
CSS Tony    I only use it for mail, but I heard that there si a live talk section in the pipeline
CSS Dennis    Unless of course you are branching across TP-4's to a 148, 159 or 121 address.  Believe me,
CSS Gary    Folks, time for me to be mozying along... have a great one!
CSS Dennis    it gets confusing very fast!!  :)
CSS Donald    Night Gary :)
CSS Miz    Night, Gary :)
CSS Tony    Later Gary
CSS Jo    Take care gary, I'll try and catch up!
CSS Dennis    Night Gary
CSS Gary    Jo, Ok...I'll be waiting :)  {{}}
CSS Gary    {{{ Miz }}}
CSS Miz    Yep, me too, if the meeting is officially over. :)
CSS Miz    Gary :*
CSS Gary    <<HandShakesToTheGuys>>
CSS Donald    Manly thing to do..;)
CSS Tony    So how does the active realtime internet work?
CSS Miz    We are done, right?
CSS Dennis    Yep Miz, :)
CSS Miz    Okay! I'll ship you the log, and you can edit it as you see fit. :)
CSS Miz    Thanks, Dennis! It was a help. :)
CSS Dennis    Active Internet means you can attend conferences if the host supports it but mostly its for
CSS Dennis    doing FTP transfers.
CSS Miz    Night, all :)
CSS Dennis    Any questions Miz, just snag me.  That's what I'm here for.
CSS Miz    Okay! :)